[mplpost] CD manufacturing alert!

Wed Oct 9 19:03:34 2002

Doesn't sound like  Punch is bankrupt yet.
That's a ways down the road.  More like
the baillifs came to call.  Try to get your
money back from Visa, and offer the second part to
Mr. Bailey from Duplium. He's holding
you up (literally and figuratively), but I'm not so 
sure he can legally do that since you have a purchase 
agreement with Punch, not with him.  

I would take the position wit Visa that the booklets are of no
use without the fully packaged cd, hence Punch has done
nothing for you.

If Punch is heading for bankruptcy, you won't get 
anything out of that. They don't have any of your
product.  You should go to  Punch's office and see
if there's a trustee or baillif name on the door.
Get on their case about your artwork and ask
if they will release it to you.  It has no financial
value to anyone.

Consumer's bureau?  Lawyer?  a couple of 
bikers?   might be in your best interest.

Good luck
Maurice

> Hello there,
> 
> I’m new to Maplepost – I’ve enjoyed discovering this
> whole world of music people alive and kicking…  Rants
> from James Gordon about border crossing shenanigans
> and outrageous, ever-escalating INS requirements are
> particularly resonant.
> 
> I’m leaping into the posting scene here because of a
> rather shocking and infuriating phone call I received
> today. It should be of interest to anyone getting CDs
> duplicated, especially through PUNCH MEDIA in Toronto.
>  I’d also appreciate some advice on what to do.
> 
> A Scott Bailey from “Duplium” gave me a call to say
> that a my order of a 1000  Flapjack CDs were sitting
> in his warehouse, but that I couldn’t have them unless
> I gave him money.
> 
> I’d ordered them through PUNCH MEDIA, as I have
> without troubles for our last 3 batches. Apparently,
> Punch sends the order to Duplium for manufacturing.
> Now, Scott tells me, Punch has been locked out of its
> offices for whatever murky reasons -- bad debts, back
> rent, whatever -- and he suspects it’s permanent. He
> says HE’S owed thousands of bucks for manufacturing
> orders from PUNCH, including the payment for MY CDs.
> However, I already authorized a deposit of 1099.19 on
> my VISA to Punch, which has already gone through, AND
> I found out from VISA that Punch has already charged
> the balance to my card without authorization. So I’ve
> been charged 2200 for 1000 CDs and I still can’t get
> them.  
> 
> I have VISA looking into the unauthorized Punch
> charge. As well, I can send VISA proof of Punch’s
> bankruptcy (how do I find that, anyone?), and proof
> that Punch didn’t provide the products/services, and
> then VISA will issue a credit to my account  But that
> could take weeks to resolve. It’s also a bit swampy
> because Punch DID already provide the booklets for the
> CD to Duplium, so they’ve provided SOME of the
> services.  
> 
> In the meantime, Scott at Duplium says maybe he and I
> can come to some “come up with some kind of deal”. 
> “You mean you want me to give you money directly” I
> asked, just to be perfectly clear. Yes, he says. This
> reeks of some kind of scam to me, but I’ve got to
> leave on tour on Oct 18 and right now I have exactly
> one CD left from our last batch. I really need to get
> those CDs that are sitting in that warehouse, or I’ll
> lose all the CD income on our upcoming tour, which
> would at least cover the 2200 to Punch I’m going to
> have to cover on my VISA, whether temporarily or not.
> So what should I do? Swing a deal with Scott at
> Duplium? Is he really allowed to ask me to pay him
> directly?  Problem is, I’m worried that Punch will
> just reopen in 2 weeks ie. not go bankrupt, and I’ll
> end up paying the VISA bill AND Duplium.
> 
> Aside from the above grief, Punch has all of our
> artwork on file in their offices. Stupid of me,
> certainly, not to have copies of my own, but there you
> go, I’ve learned my lesson.I have no idea how to get
> it because (unsurprisingly) Punch is not returning
> calls, and if the files end up in a dumpster, I have
> to have the booklet and back redesigned, which is
> plenty expensive and time-consuming.  
> 
> So, this post is a heads-up to anyone else that deals
> with Punch.  And of course, any helpful hints on how
> to deal with this situation, or any bonding with other
> folks who are in the muck with Punch, would be very
> very welcome,
> 
> 
> Karen
> www.flapjack.ca
> 
> 
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