[mplpost] Those CanCon lists

[Cameltrain Productions]

Hang in there, Richard. More incoming.

I started to compile a list from the regular posters on Folk DJ a while back,
and though I gave up for lack of time, I've got 121 so far. Those were ones
who I thought were playing artists that I thought would be a good fit for some
of mine.  Those were all American, but there are also posters from 
 Australia and New Zealand and one from Germany.  In the US,
they are quite geographically spread out, from Hawaii to Alaska, west
coast to east coast, Minnesota to the Virgin Islands.  

Folk DJ at http://www.folkradio.org/  says they have over 900 subscribers.
I know those are definitely not all radio  programmers.  Many are people who
track their artists, artists who are checking for airplay.

Richard Gillman of KBCS in Bellevue, WA near Seattle compiles a monthly
list.  His August top 70 was based on 11963 airplays posted to Folk DJ.
In the month of August.  11,963 airplays seems to be a fairly representative
sample.

His and Harry's charts are great.  And they're free.  To get this from the jazz
programmers list HQ is big bucks.

MH



> Whoops, I've put my hand in the hornet's nest again!
> 
> Let's get specific, can we?  Just how many American "folk djs" are 
> there who contribute playlists so Harry can plough through them and 
> come up with a list that proves Enoch gets more airplay than Bruce 
> Cockburn? On some programmes, somewhere.
> 
> Suitably chastened by Vic's response, and aware that Jory and Lenore 
> and many others are able to take promotional advantage of their 
> rankings on this "chart" - I understand that and congratulate them on 
> taking advantage of any chart listing, however specious.   I'm glad 
> Jory figures out he's made $7,000 in two years because he was listed; 
> I'm delighted Lenore figures it gets her a bit better known; I'm glad 
> that such lists tip Vic and others to artists he's not come across 
> yet.
> 
> Nonetheless, I continue (under a barrage of ack ack fire) to suggest 
> that this chart is as threadbare as the poster on an American blues 
> list who proudly proclaimed that he was number #5 on the MP3 
> Christian Blues Chart.  It really doesn't reflect the reality of 
> radio play, of record sales, or much of anything - except that some 
> people who programme some folk shows on a some stations give their 
> playlists to a list, and Harry extracts the Canadian names and 
> provides that list to the rest of us.
> 
> I don't need to be told that "folk radio", per se, is a somewhat 
> limited field.  Just how limited?  I don't know, but I'd be 
> interested in finding out. One more thing, does Harry's list include 
> the programming of folk like Michael Regenstrief at one end of the 
> country and Valerie Cormier at the other? Perhaps Vic has the 
> answer(s).
> 
> As someone, as Vic pointed out, who makes (some!) of his living 
> working with little-known, unknown and occasionally very well-known 
> "folk" artists, it would be more instructive to know who these djs 
> were, where they are, and what kind of numbers their shows have.  Can 
> mere publicists join folk dj? And if so, how?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Richard
> 
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